Deduction and experience–to dogman and back

As I get older, I have come to appreciate that older people are underappreciated.  We, the elders, are wise, and our wisdom should be respected by our juniors. Like that will happen.  But I nevertheless offer some wisdom for your consideration.  It may sound familiar to some.

✶  The spiritual realm is real.   For real.

✶  There are many invisible, incorporeal, immortal spirit beings with whom we share the cosmos.  Ask about those out-of-body experiences.

✶The spirits already chose sides– good or bad.

✶ The ones who chose bad like to see us suffer and want to make us miserable as possible for as long as possible.

✶These bad spirits have been here with us on Earth for eons.   They know us well, are smart, and are much more knowledgeable about the universe than we are.

✶    The sight of one scares us stone stupid.

Given the above, I have come to these conclusions:

➙  Bigfoot can be influenced or possessed by bad spirits.   This explains some of the weirder experiences of bigfoot.

➙ Not all bigfoot are likely to be evilly influenced.

➙ “Aliens” may be bad spirits.  These aliens would have no relation to actual aliens.

  They had plenty of time to develop advanced technology like flying saucers.  This explains why UFOs can be “summoned,” why they sometimes zoom up to observers, and why they abduct and torture people.

➙  No way dogman evolved from dogs or people.   Some  contend that dogman creatures were created by genetic engineering.   Aliens and demons perhaps being the same thing, I guess it would be possible for them to make dogmen, and it sure would explain the dogman temperament.

➙  Other stuff is out there.

Cryptid Types

I have been thinking some more about the various ways we are trying to sort the cryptids of which we are aware, and we might be looking at it wrong.

The bigfoot guys are might be grouped all into one bunch–ranging along more of a spectrum than cut into clear groups of different kinds.  When we are trying over long periods to sort them and we keep getting more confused, it might be better to lump them until we know more.  When we do know more, we will be able to parse this out.

Dogman is another thing entirely that I will not work into this post.

Game camera puzzle

I just read an article from the Texas Wood Ape Conservancy that detailed their investigation into whether the cameras make sounds inaudible to us but that bigfoot can hear.

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I am wondering now whether some light emanates from the cameras that bigfoot can see and we cannot.  Next investigation?  What kind of expert would be able to examine the cameras for that issue?  I don’t know, but I am sure the TWAC will be able to tackle it sometime.

Binge-worthy Bigfoot Podcast List

There are a lot of bigfoot-related podcasts out there.   I have listened to everything I, personally, can find, but I long for more.  Maybe you do, too.

But it’s a tricky proposition, because the good ones can be hard to find and hard to sort out from the crummy ones.

I have made a list of the podcast shows I can recommend and links thereto for your education and entertainment.  Not  every program is a gem, but these are the ones that are reliable for good listening, in general.  Binge-worthy, certainly.  I recommend skipping over the first five to twenty minutes in the case of shows with gabbier hosts.

This is over 1,000 shows, so I guess you will be busy for a couple of months.

Bigfoot Crossroads (Outlaws on Youtube  (see also old blog:  Old outlaw blog) Bigfoot Outlaws, Coonbo and Company)

Bigfoot Outlaw Radio on blogtalk, 51 episodes, Bigfoot Outlaw Radio

Older Sasquatch Chronicles shows on blogtalk, 203 episodes, Older Sasquatch Chronicles

Newer Sasquatch Chronicles shows, over 300 episodes, some the same as on the older shows link, Sasquatch Chronicles newer

Bigfoot Tonight on blogtalk, 112 episodes, Bigfoot Tonight

Midnight Walkers on blogtalk, 91 episodes, Midnight Walkers

Nite Callers on blogtalk, 218 episodes, Nitecallers  These go back six years.

Bigfoot Notes From the Field, from Will Jevning, 27 episodes, Bigfoot Notes From the Field

Cyptid Types Kerfuffle

Both Will Jevning and Coonbo Baker contributed to the concept that there are several types of bigfoot.   I mention those names because it’s important to know whom to blame.

Everyone will agree they don’t all look alike, but Type 1, Type 2, Type 3, et cetera–how many types are there?   It’s very confusing.

Here is a link to a website that is trying to keep up with the burgeoning kinds of cryptids–Bigfoot 411.  Bigfoot 411 typesbigfoot-411-types-pageHere is an interesting collage of hominins from a BBC page that may also be some use in classifying  mystery monkeys.


An interactive sketch artist program is what we need here.  Volunteers?   I am not going to contribute to the confusion by attempting to categorize any creatures.  You can thank me later.

Here is a list of sighting particulars that a report or description.    A text version takes a lot of room but is copiable, so I put it on this page:    list pagelist-for-report

Crop Circles

Today I happened to de-dog-poo the back yard and noticed something odd.

This time of year, here in Central  California, the weather is rainy and the native bunch grasses are green and tall.  My backyard is a sandy, hot wasteland most of the year but right now parts of it are covered in tall, green grass.   We have to mow soon to wipe out the foxtail grass’s evil seeds that corkscrew their way into our socks and the dogs’ ears and nose.

Today, upon cruising the yard for poo, I noticed some  large strangely flatted spots.  Our dogs don’t spend much time outdoors back there and, if they lie down, they lie on the porch.   They would not be responsible for this.


Sound Familiar?

Does any of this ring a bell with you?

Rocks thrown

Rocks on roof

Sound of walking or running across roof

Pebbles, pine cones, nuts tossed near people

Large rocks thrown into water near you

Terrible stench, an eye-watering, rotten, skunky smell

Wall pounded on

Red glowing eyes seen at night

Eye shine at night, high up

Taps on window pane, tapping

Scratching sound on outside walls, windows, or screens

Trees shaking, waving, without windy weather

Healthy trees pushed over, branches broken in good weather

Animal shadows moving quickly across curtains or window shades

Howls, screaming, calls, whoops, perhaps loud enough to vibrate your body

Sudden, intense feeling of being watched

Knocking sounds on wood, rocks clacking together

Dead animals found in odd places, arranged oddly

Scratches on vehicles

Doors ripped off hinges

Trailers or large equipment tipped over

Dogs and pets disappear or are found mutilated

Fake-sounding bird or animal calls

Way-too-loud animal sounds

Odd arrangements of sticks and branches, stacks, teepees, fences, bare trunks stacked up

Trees broken off at four foot or higher level

Tree trunks or branches twisted and splintered

Barefoot footprints of unusual size

Prints made by big bare feet

U-shaped dents in soil

Unidentifiable animal tracks, resembling cow or horse tracks, but not right for cow or horse

Smears on windows, walls, or vehicles

Outdoor sheds broken into, freezers opened and pilfered

Animal feed disappears too quickly

Missing articles found later in obvious spot

All of a fruit or vegetable crop goes missing overnight

Animals going crazy, running around

Animals jumpy or injured in the morning, scratches, handprints on hide

Dogs barking, dogs hiding, whimpering

Face in the window

Someone is growled at

Someone hears heavy, loud breathing

Child tells of seeing a monkey or ape or a bear walking

Hunter’s kill disappears without a trace–no drag marks, no blood trail, no tracks

Domestic or wild animals found with necks or backs twisted and guts removed, some innards gone, some laid aside

Door knobs rattled, door knocked on in the middle of the night

Sound of talking in  woods or outside at night when no one is there

Yes?  You might have sasquatches in the neighborhood.

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Are Bigfoot Human or Not?

Are bigfoot human?  Right away the discussion devolves into a different question–what does it take to qualify as human?   As much as I’d love to dodge that one, it’s necessary to address it.

Neanderthals are humans, but not our (sub?)species, for example.    The characteristics of a group need not apply to all members of a group.  For  example, we know humans have five fingers on each hand, but being born with six fingers on each hand does not count you out.  So to speak.

Let’s just use these criteria below as a starting point.    A  no  for any criterion might disqualify bigfoot from human status.  Do sasquatches qualify as humans according to the these?

Animals > mammals > primates of the great ape department    probably

Omnivores   yes

Intelligent, as animals go   yes

Have opposable thumbs   yes

Have a spoken language   yes

Use individual names for ourselves   unknown 

Have spiritual beliefs   unknown  

Make and use tools and fire    unknown 

Know of and try to direct the future   probably 

Different bunches of sasquatches will fall into different classes, it seems likely.

Although this is far from decisive, scientific, or comprehensive, it can be a place to start.  We at least know some kinds of things we want to find out about these creatures so we can determine how eventually to classify them.


The Bodies–where are they?

Here, again, I consider the eternal question, that being what happens to all the bigfoot bodies that should by all rights be lying around in their forest or other habitat?  They certainly don’t leave them where we can find them.

Logically, there is a limited number of alternatives.  Either  they bury them, burn them, eat them, or   . . . . what else is there?   I have considered the question of whether Image result for bones skullbigfoot eat their dead here .  Dead post.

It is possible they cremate their remains.  If they do, they would probably burn them at night to conceal the smoke plume and do so in a place hidden from ordinary view, such as partway into a cave or mine, or a very low and remote spot.  We don’t know that they use fire, but they are smart enough to do so.    Absence of proof isn’t proof of absence, as they say.   Ashes would be easy to dispose of, say to dump into a river or scatter, leaving us clueless as ever.

If they eat them, they may smash and consume even the bone.  And in fact, this would fit perfectly into their lifestyle of extreme, compulsive secrecy.   We would never know.

If they bury bodies, they probably don’t just dig a hole on a pretty spot and plant their loved one.  Their need for secrecy would probably compel them to put large rocks on top of a grave, put graves under very large trees, put bodies in caverns, or otherwise effectively tree-sky-slicehide corpses.   I have heard it suggested that they may put the dead in hollows in trees, but that seems too likely to be discovered, as does putting a body underwater somewhere or in a body of water.

It’s possible that they simply dig a hole that is much deeper than we would expect.  Yet, we dig around too much ourselves for such a thing to escape our notice.

One other method of disposing of the dead is practiced by some humans–natural defleshing followed by burial of bones.   In Tibet, for example, the dead are disposed of via “sky burial.”  Bodies are left for the birds to clean the flesh from, and, after that is accomplished, the bones are buried.  It may be that instead of burying them, bones could be smashed to render them unrecognizable.platform

Comanche Indians used  a platform for a version of a sky burial, so this practice is not as foreign as it might at first sound.

Finally and most creepily, the Maori of the Chatham Islands strap some dead to a young tree and over time the tree grows to envelop the body.  Bigfoot does not do so that we know of, but it seems like something that would  appeal to them, somehow.

It’s my guess that the sasquatches do a little bit of sky burial with an added tree element.  I think they put the dead up on platforms built high in trees to be defleshed, up where we won’t see them and higher than we can climb.   Then they place the disarticulated bones up among the topmost tree branches.   Just a theory,   of course.

Now that we have drones, at least some of that will now be easier to investigate.

Other suspicious deaths

 Stephanie Callahan

By WBTW News Staff Published: February 23, 2015, 3:26 pm

LORIS, SC (WBTW) – A Loris woman was found dead inside a “tree stand” after crashing her car over the weekend.

According to Horry County Deputy Coroner Tony Hendrick, 24-year-old Stephanie Callahan crashed her vehicle off Morgan Road, just off SC 701 on February 19th just after midnight.

Hendrick said Callahan then walked into nearby woods and climbed into a deer stand.

A search party consisting of family and friends found Callahan Sunday.

Hendrick said it appears Callahan died from hypothermia, but final testing is being done

Melissa Joy Dietzel

In January 2012, the body of a young woman was found in an oak tree in Australia.

Melissa Joy Dietzel, 22, of Redlands, California, was a U.S. tourist who was working abroad as a live-in nanny and allegedly committed suicide. Her remains were found 30 feet up by a tree surgeon in the Randwick area of Sydney after reports of a foul smell coming from its branches.

Dietzel, who was identified through missing person’s records, dental details, and her clothing, had not been living in the tree before her death, despite reports to the contrary. (Source)

08-21-2014, 17:54

Early on the morning of Saturday, August 16, I was leaving the Lambert Meadows Camp Site when I chanced upon this sight at the fire pit near the tent site picnic table.

I called out to see if anyone was around, but didn’t hear a peep.

There was no evidence of foul play, other than abandoned clothes, some with singe marks, in the fire pit.
The pit itself was dead cold, thus the clothes had been there at least a day. I’m also pretty sure nobody else camped near me the previous night.

If I had seen any evidence of foul play, I’d have called 911 as soon as I got a signal.

If I’d seen what was unambiguously a wallet or phone, I’d have picked that up, in order to contact its owner.

Because it was only a WEIRD scene, I looked up the URL for the Roanoke ATC


and left an e-mail for Shelter Supervisor Homer Witcher. He’s not contacted me back, so I presume he didn’t see an immediate need to see my photos.

I left everything exactly as I found it JUST IN CASE the area actually did need some careful analysis.

But I’m still curious what others think the situation was (still is?).

Did someone decide to give up hiking here, and symbolically threw away these clothes to show a complete break-away?   Or perhaps someone tried to dry out her/his wet clothes over a fire, only to find out that isn’t the best way to handle wet cotton or leather?

Any other ideas?

Less conventional information about sasquatch