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The Shaawanoki of Florida

I saw a  Youtube video a few years ago about an incident in the Green Swamp in Florida, I think it was, in which a motorist struck and killed a swamp ape similar to that in shaawanoki picture to the right.
The piece had a photo that looked absolutely real to me.  It was gripping and unforgettable.
Apparently the motorist called 911 and EMTs came out, pronounced it dead, and took it away in a body bag.  Unfortunately, the guy ran into the usual haters–those apertures who criticize the best  evidence the most vociferously.   He soon took down the video.
Anybody know anything bout this? I would be so thrilled to see that photo again.
Some general swamp ape / shaawanoee info:
Sighting reports and information:

Deduction and experience–to dogman and back

As I get older, I have come to appreciate that older people are underappreciated.  We, the elders, are wise, and our wisdom should be respected by our juniors. Like that will happen.  But I nevertheless offer some wisdom for your consideration.  It may sound familiar to some.

✶  The spiritual realm is real.   For real.

✶  There are many invisible, incorporeal, immortal spirit beings with whom we share the cosmos.  Ask about those out-of-body experiences.

✶The spirits already chose sides– good or bad.

✶ The ones who chose bad like to see us suffer and want to make us miserable as possible for as long as possible.

✶These bad spirits have been here with us on Earth for eons.   They know us well, are smart, and are much more knowledgeable about the universe than we are.

✶    The sight of one scares us stone stupid.

Given the above, I have come to these conclusions:

➙  Bigfoot can be influenced or possessed by bad spirits.   This explains some of the weirder experiences of bigfoot.

➙ Not all bigfoot are likely to be evilly influenced.

➙ “Aliens” may be bad spirits.  These aliens would have no relation to actual aliens.

  They had plenty of time to develop advanced technology like flying saucers.  This explains why UFOs can be “summoned,” why they sometimes zoom up to observers, and why they abduct and torture people.

➙  No way dogman evolved from dogs or people.   Some  contend that dogman creatures were created by genetic engineering.   Aliens and demons perhaps being the same thing, I guess it would be possible for them to make dogmen, and it sure would explain the dogman temperament.

➙  Other stuff is out there.

Cryptid Types

I have been thinking some more about the various ways we are trying to sort the cryptids of which we are aware, and we might be looking at it wrong.

The bigfoot guys are might be grouped all into one bunch–ranging along more of a spectrum than cut into clear groups of different kinds.  When we are trying over long periods to sort them and we keep getting more confused, it might be better to lump them until we know more.  When we do know more, we will be able to parse this out.

Dogman is another thing entirely that I will not work into this post.

Game camera puzzle

I just read an article from the Texas Wood Ape Conservancy that detailed their investigation into whether the cameras make sounds inaudible to us but that bigfoot can hear.

camera test

I am wondering now whether some light emanates from the cameras that bigfoot can see and we cannot.  Next investigation?  What kind of expert would be able to examine the cameras for that issue?  I don’t know, but I am sure the TWAC will be able to tackle it sometime.

Binge-worthy Bigfoot Podcast List

There are a lot of bigfoot-related podcasts out there.   I have listened to everything I, personally, can find, but I long for more.  Maybe you do, too.

But it’s a tricky proposition, because the good ones can be hard to find and hard to sort out from the crummy ones.

I have made a list of the podcast shows I can recommend and links thereto for your education and entertainment.  Not  every program is a gem, but these are the ones that are reliable for good listening, in general.  Binge-worthy, certainly.  I recommend skipping over the first five to twenty minutes in the case of shows with gabbier hosts.

This is over 1,000 shows, so I guess you will be busy for a couple of months.

Bigfoot Crossroads (Outlaws on Youtube  (see also old blog:  Old outlaw blog) Bigfoot Outlaws, Coonbo and Company)

Bigfoot Outlaw Radio on blogtalk, 51 episodes, Bigfoot Outlaw Radio

Older Sasquatch Chronicles shows on blogtalk, 203 episodes, Older Sasquatch Chronicles

Newer Sasquatch Chronicles shows, over 300 episodes, some the same as on the older shows link, Sasquatch Chronicles newer

Bigfoot Tonight on blogtalk, 112 episodes, Bigfoot Tonight

Midnight Walkers on blogtalk, 91 episodes, Midnight Walkers

Nite Callers on blogtalk, 218 episodes, Nitecallers  These go back six years.

Bigfoot Notes From the Field, from Will Jevning, 27 episodes, Bigfoot Notes From the Field

Cyptid Types Kerfuffle

Both Will Jevning and Coonbo Baker contributed to the concept that there are several types of bigfoot.   I mention those names because it’s important to know whom to blame.

Everyone will agree they don’t all look alike, but Type 1, Type 2, Type 3, et cetera–how many types are there?   It’s very confusing.

Here is a link to a website that is trying to keep up with the burgeoning kinds of cryptids–Bigfoot 411.  Bigfoot 411 typesbigfoot-411-types-pageHere is an interesting collage of hominins from a BBC page that may also be some use in classifying  mystery monkeys.


An interactive sketch artist program is what we need here.  Volunteers?   I am not going to contribute to the confusion by attempting to categorize any creatures.  You can thank me later.

Here is a list of sighting particulars that a report or description.    A text version takes a lot of room but is copiable, so I put it on this page:    list pagelist-for-report

Crop Circles

Today I happened to de-dog-poo the back yard and noticed something odd.

This time of year, here in Central  California, the weather is rainy and the native bunch grasses are green and tall.  My backyard is a sandy, hot wasteland most of the year but right now parts of it are covered in tall, green grass.   We have to mow soon to wipe out the foxtail grass’s evil seeds that corkscrew their way into our socks and the dogs’ ears and nose.

Today, upon cruising the yard for poo, I noticed some  large strangely flatted spots.  Our dogs don’t spend much time outdoors back there and, if they lie down, they lie on the porch.   They would not be responsible for this.


Are Bigfoot Human or Not?

Are bigfoot human?  Right away the discussion devolves into a different question–what does it take to qualify as human?   As much as I’d love to dodge that one, it’s necessary to address it.

Neanderthals are humans, but not our (sub?)species, for example.    The characteristics of a group need not apply to all members of a group.  For  example, we know humans have five fingers on each hand, but being born with six fingers on each hand does not count you out.  So to speak.

Let’s just use these criteria below as a starting point.    A  no  for any criterion might disqualify bigfoot from human status.  Do sasquatches qualify as humans according to the these?

Animals > mammals > primates of the great ape department    probably

Omnivores   yes

Intelligent, as animals go   yes

Have opposable thumbs   yes

Have a spoken language   yes

Use individual names for ourselves   unknown 

Have spiritual beliefs   unknown  

Make and use tools and fire    unknown 

Know of and try to direct the future   probably 

Different bunches of sasquatches will fall into different classes, it seems likely.

Although this is far from decisive, scientific, or comprehensive, it can be a place to start.  We at least know some kinds of things we want to find out about these creatures so we can determine how eventually to classify them.


Other suspicious deaths

 Stephanie Callahan

By WBTW News Staff Published: February 23, 2015, 3:26 pm

LORIS, SC (WBTW) – A Loris woman was found dead inside a “tree stand” after crashing her car over the weekend.

According to Horry County Deputy Coroner Tony Hendrick, 24-year-old Stephanie Callahan crashed her vehicle off Morgan Road, just off SC 701 on February 19th just after midnight.

Hendrick said Callahan then walked into nearby woods and climbed into a deer stand.

A search party consisting of family and friends found Callahan Sunday.

Hendrick said it appears Callahan died from hypothermia, but final testing is being done

Melissa Joy Dietzel

In January 2012, the body of a young woman was found in an oak tree in Australia.

Melissa Joy Dietzel, 22, of Redlands, California, was a U.S. tourist who was working abroad as a live-in nanny and allegedly committed suicide. Her remains were found 30 feet up by a tree surgeon in the Randwick area of Sydney after reports of a foul smell coming from its branches.

Dietzel, who was identified through missing person’s records, dental details, and her clothing, had not been living in the tree before her death, despite reports to the contrary. (Source)

08-21-2014, 17:54

Early on the morning of Saturday, August 16, I was leaving the Lambert Meadows Camp Site when I chanced upon this sight at the fire pit near the tent site picnic table.

I called out to see if anyone was around, but didn’t hear a peep.

There was no evidence of foul play, other than abandoned clothes, some with singe marks, in the fire pit.
The pit itself was dead cold, thus the clothes had been there at least a day. I’m also pretty sure nobody else camped near me the previous night.

If I had seen any evidence of foul play, I’d have called 911 as soon as I got a signal.

If I’d seen what was unambiguously a wallet or phone, I’d have picked that up, in order to contact its owner.

Because it was only a WEIRD scene, I looked up the URL for the Roanoke ATC


and left an e-mail for Shelter Supervisor Homer Witcher. He’s not contacted me back, so I presume he didn’t see an immediate need to see my photos.

I left everything exactly as I found it JUST IN CASE the area actually did need some careful analysis.

But I’m still curious what others think the situation was (still is?).

Did someone decide to give up hiking here, and symbolically threw away these clothes to show a complete break-away?   Or perhaps someone tried to dry out her/his wet clothes over a fire, only to find out that isn’t the best way to handle wet cotton or leather?

Any other ideas?

Great Ape Aggression

Here is an interesting tidbit from wiki….re mountain gorilla aggressive behavior:

The sequence has nine steps: (1) progressively quickening hooting, (2) symbolic feeding, (3) rising bipedally, (4) throwing vegetation, (5) chest-beating with cupped hands, (6) one leg kick, (7) sideways running four-legged, (8) slapping and tearing vegetation, and (9) thumping the ground with palms. [28] Jill Donisthorpe stated that a male charged at her twice. In both cases the gorilla turned away, when she stood her ground.[29]